Well, That Figures...

So, I'm looking for a new job to avoid relocating my family 500 miles away from where we consider "home". Due to a highly competitive job market and my current compensation level, finding the right opportunity hasn't been easy. Well, I had identified a potentially perfect opportunity through an intermediary - money is there, my skills and experience are a perfect fit for the position, the employer wants to land someone ASAP and they are keen to pursue my services.

The kicker? The employer is Reynolds American. On one hand, I need to look out for number one and provide for my family to the best of my abilities. On the other, I can't in good conscious draw a paycheck from big tobacco. If I still smoked, it would be a no brainer, lol.

Oh well, the search continues.  


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OKAY - If Ya' got something to say or an opinion or better yet actual FACTS to share - here is the thread to do it . . .

JUST REMEMBER - This thread is NOT "OUTSIDE" and Civility is a MUST for everyone - NO, Matter what your personal views are . . .



Have Fun. . . .

EDIT: BTW - I have absolutely no intentions on participating in this discussion/discourse - nor provide any personal insights/opinions/feelings about this subject - this thread is here to allow everyone else a place to do so and keep it out of other on going threads that have nothing to do with future conjecture/s of their personal perceived opinions of "What Is Going to Happen" . . . Just Sayin' . . .


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