First Real B&m Scam I've Ever Seen.

So I walked into a B&M today for the first time. They have a couple of cabinets full of supplies and juices. All the workers seemed really snobby! They asked what I vape on and pulled out my istick 50w w/ Subtank Mini. They basically scoffed at me. Not only that, but they are selling the Subtank Mini for $85!! That's almost double the regular price.

I casually mentioned that the price might be wrong, and they said nope. They said, and I quote,

"New people have no idea what prices look like. They don't know it's cheaper online, so don't let anyone know. We gotta make money somehow."

....seriously? I understand markups for profit, but this? It's ridiculous. They also sell 15ml juices for $25. They have a small display case of space jam, but when I asked for Andromada, they kept insisting their juices are better.

Has anyone experienced shops like this?

I HIGHLY recommend if you're new, check out stuff online first. I'm all for supporting your community, but beware of stuff like this. Check out online prices just so you know what to compare them to!  


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Yesterday I was in NYC at a vape store in midtown Manhattan and they had the iStick 50 in stock in every color.....for $65. The B&M's online store (it is one location of a chain located in several states) doesn't even have them in stock. You would think that with the astronomical rents for retail space that the prices would be high. I almost walked out of there with a MVP 3.0 since they were only asking $55 for it.

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Found A Great B&m Near Me

So today I decided to go check out a B&M that is near me, but further away from the other B&M's closer to me. The place is called The Vapor Lounge and it is located in Warwick NY. If anyone ever finds themselves in the Hudson Valley, I highly recommend checking this place out. Went there to check out some different brands and flavors of juice, ended up leaving there with some new juice, a new mod, and a new RDA (and my first one at that).

The Vapor Lounge Warwick NY

Spent quite a bit of time talking with the owner, Zack, sharing stories on how and why we got into vaping. All his prices either matches, or is slightly better than prices you can find online. Ended up buying a SX Mini M Class ($200), Freakshow Mini ($25), a couple of JMK WD Pico+ drip tips ($20 each), and a couple of other delrin drip tips with a stainless steel cover ($5 each and shown in the picture). I also picked up two bottle of Voltage by the Juice Guys in 3 mg and a bottle of Dragonaire by Tasty Cloud in 6 mg.



Zack recommended the Freakshow Mini as a good starter RDA that gives great flavor. He spent over a half hour walking me through and showing me how to build a nickel coil for it and wicking it with cotton as he built me a coil for the Freakshow Mini, and he didn't charge me for the coil building. He then walked me through all of the options in the menu of the SX Mini. They do have a rewards program where you earn $1 for every $10 you spend on hardware, so I've accumulated enough points on this one purchase for a bottle of juice. As I left, he said to come back whenever I have any questions or issues, even if it is with stuff that I did not purchase from him.

He has definitely earned a lifetime customer.  

Finally! No More Urges To Buy New Gear!

Finally! I've tried so many sub ohm tanks with a shelf of them to prove it along with box mods and I've found my perfect set up that I'm 100 percent happy with. That urge of "must have more" and "must have the latest and greatest" has finally subsided after 100s of dollars spent. I can finally relax on hardware and focus on enjoying good juices. I still stay up on new tech but I'm finally happy on my go to juice vendor and hardware. Oh what a good feeling!

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Istick 20
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My go to juices are all from itcvapes. 20$ for 120ml for the win.

Time to sell off old items or give them to friends to help them quit smoking.

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Wonderful feeling!  

Hey Everyone!! Some Juice Talk?

Hey guys, pretty new here only one previous post...
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& that's the issue so now I'm vaping about 6ml a day, I just smashed through a 15ml 12mg nicotine Cinnabun & 15ml 0mg nicotine Cinnabun.
(Mixing the two gives me great flavor & the right amount of nicotine hit)
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Where do you guys buy Juice?
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Is that expensive ?
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Sigelei 50 Watt Vr2 And Subtank Mini Upgrade Opinions Needed

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I’m hoping for some advice on a setup I’m considering upgrading to.

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I’ve been thinking of moving on up to a kanger subtank mini (found on sale for $30) so I can begin to learn how to build coils, etc. in hopes of saving some extra $$$ on replacement coils down the road. I’m also considering upgrading to a Sigelei 50 Watt VR2 (found them on sale for $50) so I’ll have plenty power for the tank. However, I have no experience with the Sigelei’s, just see that they are a fairly popular box mod with the community and online reviews. Also found the Sigelei 150w on sale for $80 but feel it may be too much for my needs.

So here’s my questions to you fine folks:

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Vg/pg And Flavoring In Vape Shops

I am somewhat curious why vape shops don't carry supplies to make your own e juice. I understand they make good money on their juices but for the people that do make their own, the shops are losing that sale all-together. Brew shops carry supplies to make beer and they also make good money; why then, can't vape shops do the same with juice?  

Throat Hit Too Harsh

Hello I really need some advice
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is there something I can add to store/online bought ejuice to soothe the throat hit ? I believe all the juices are 70vg/30pg. I know higher PG means stronger throat hit. Maybe i just need to buy max vg juices?

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Price Comparison Chart For Kanthal And Nichrome... Attached

I looked around and couldn't find anything like this so I decided to make one..

It isn't done yet but I figured I would throw up what I had in the hopes that it could help save everyone some money..

The lowest and highest prices in each column will auto highlight (green and red) to make it easier to find

Please Note:

- Prices are subject to change and this is only meant to be used as a reference to find the best pricing available
- These prices do NOT include shipping (that is something I will add later)

I will also be making one that has wicking material, flavoring and Bases (for DIYing) along with DIY supplies.. If there is anything else you all would like to have a comparison chart done on let me know, I have plenty of time and I am bored lol

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I haven't bought too many times from this shop but the times that I did the service was quick and easy, a lot of variety and a clean easy website to find what you need.

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Thanks and I hope this helps

Vape Safe  

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I'm not interested in Alibaba, DHGate, etc sellers even if they are manufacturers. Has to be real manufacturers who have their own retail websites you can order from like the above mentioned companies.

Companies like Aspire, Kanger, iSmoka, etc don't count because they don't sell older stuff besides some small clearomizers.

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