Cloud Chasing With Tanks?

The question is.. Is it possible? Do you believe the sub ohm tanks in today's market could possibly hold a candle to the insane Rdas of the market today such as the dark horse or the doge v2? If not in their stock form then in what way could one modify it too hold a candle in a cloud chasing competition  


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Are Cloud Chasers Posers?

Options are good. There are so many options out there today for somebody looking for different sorts of vaping hardware. Some people might be happy with a little 808 kit and other people might be happy with a $500 custom mod. As long as whatever each individual is using is working for them, then great! I wouldn't judge any fellow vaper based on their hardware, but I have to admit that I remain suspicious of cloud chasers. I also admit that I don't know that much about it, and maybe that's why I'm making this post.

Besides making big clouds, what benefit does cloud chasing give somebody?

I read that in some cloud chasing competitions, the contestents use 100% VG unflavored. So it's certainly not the taste that these people are after.

So, is it all just about blowing big clouds and showing off? Basically being a poser?  

Potential Advantage To Cloud Chasing.

I have no quarrel with those that cloud chase or those that do not. I do think cloud chasing should be avoided in a crowed area as I dislike someone blowing a huge cloud in my face same way I disliked someone blowing smoke in my face. Moving on, after no significant cloud chasing and no new gear for almost a year I decided it was time for a toy. Grabbed a IPv4 and a little boy rda. Once I adjusted my coil build technique to accommodate so much extra power gotta say I'm really enjoying it. So the point of my rambling, besides the fact I can, is I have always hated 0nic liquid. Seemed so depressing and missing my TH which is important. But with the right build a 0nic liquid has just enough TH to make me think it's possible to go to 0. Not saying I want to go to zero but it was never an options before due to it being unsatisfying. So to anyone who does want to give up nicotine you may want to consider a setup that chucks out more vapor.  

Cloud Chasers...

Hi there!

Ive noticed a bit of a backlash against chasing clouds from a few posters. I wonder why that is? While i do prefer a more powerful and flavorful vape alongside relatively robust clouds, im not particularly interested in the cloud chasing hobby. I like my nicotine and i like tasting my juices. Beyond the novelty of blowing huge plumes of vape, i dont see myself as a cloud chaser.

But i dont have anything against them.

For me, vaping is both hobby and necessity to avoid analogs. Im an addict. Im not ashamed of that. But i can appreciate the purely hobbyist approach to vaping. But why, o' leavened and unleavened masses of the forums, is there ANY backlash against cloud chasing?

I mean, is it so bad to spend the equivalent of a mortgage payment on vaping equipment?  

Cloud Chasing Coil Resistance

So I was just wondering what resistances (and I suppose coils) people use for their cloud chasing builds.
Is the lower resistance or surface area of the coils more important?

My current go-to setup is a dual micro coil at around 0.18 - 0.20 ohms with 24 guage (I think 4 wraps).  

Noone's Making Custom Pnp/voopoo Coils?!

I'm a little late to the drop-in PNP coil game, I just got Wotofo's SMRT PNP rebuildable coil system and I LOVE IT. I've always been an oldschool rebuildable, low ohm, high watts, big hot vapor fan, and extremely skeptical of the replaceable pods because, let's be honest 5 years ago they didn't hold a candle to a plain'ol RDA that you have to spend 15 minutes building and getting just right.

Well the PNP coils have me kicking myself for not trying them sooner as they produce 95% the same amount of vapor of a *perfect* RDA build, but with 10x better warmth and flavor.

So I'm wondering why the heck other companies besides wotofo aren't upping the anty and making better PNP coils like Wotofo (the Voopoo ones are great, but Wotofo really outshines them with their rebuildable mesh-style pods). I would easily pay $20 for an Ohm Science pre-made Alien Clapton pnp pod or something a little more intense. Since you can put these PNP'S on an 80+ watt mod, there's a world of possibility for plug-n-play cloud chasing if you want, and I think there's some financial incentive for that.

Does anybody know where you can maybe buy some blank wholesale pnp shells because I might try and make my own if no one else does!  

Been Away A Long Time. Is There Any Market For Classic Mods?

Hey all, very few will remember me but I was one of the earlier on adopter mainstays here years ago, especially in the REO and mech mod arenas. Spent thousands on mods back then, but I don't regret it as it helped me kick a 23 year butt habit. I still have several higher end devices from about 5-8 years ago that I will never use again but enjoy looking at. I wonder if there is any market at all for 'classic' higher end devices amongst today's members?

I am talking about REO Woodvilles and REO Grands, Bogger Boxes, SUPER T ELA, Atom mechs, Provari Minis, carto tanks and carts and a couple others that I don't even remember the name of but were THE THING back in the day LoL.

I may let go of them if there is a market at all for them amongst today members. Just curious if there is a renaissance yet for these things.  

Xpro M80

So here's my question. First I'll start with some background to hopefully avoid questions in the future. I've been vaping for about 3 months. I have a eleaf 30w, that I usually use a nautilus/ atlantis tank on. I also have a sigelei 150w, that I use a plume veil and dark horse on. So my question is that I really like the cool vape that I get with the eleaf on my tanks. I have been tinkering with the the 150 w/ the dark horse and I finally think I found a build that gives me that same feeling. I would like to know thoughts on if the M80 would assist me in accomplishing this further on my builds with the TC.  

So Whats Next...

sub ohm dropping left and right... i can count on my hands around 10+ tanks already on the market

what else you think they can innovate on?

to me seems like the innovation for bigger and better has a ceiling and we are either at it or near it

a. wattage... 50-150 is "common" nowadays, 7-30w is what most people begin with
b. sub ohm tanks, the one im using has crazy airflow and uses cotton, flavor and vapor is on par with most rdas
c. rdas with multiple ways to build, airflow, color, flavor, etc..

what you think is "the next big thing" or you believe we near the ceiling in terms of innovation  

Funky Taste From Rda - Machine Oil??

So I just recived a Dark Horse Clone by Tobeco today. I didn't clean it/wash it before I put some coils in and started ripping. I just read apost about machine oil possibly being on things when you by them, and now I swear I can taste something weird.
I don't have anymore Kanthal or cotton, but I am just wondering if it WAS machine oil, would be it a definitely noticeable taste, or could it just possibly be me not being used to the RDA itself?

Thanks for any feedback!  

Am I A Luddite?

Or maybe even a heretic, or a blasphemer?
I like mini tanks and small batteries. My favorite setups are mini protank version 1 clones with 650mah basic ego style batteries. Stainless steel finish, no funky colors or designs. Single bottom coil on the tanks, no air flow controls. Standard voltage batteries, no twisty things on the bottom, no usb passthrough, no digital displays, just a battery. I like the ego style because the protruding button is easier to find and helps keep them from rolling around. The lack of features I don't need means the batteries are small. I like small, sleek, simple.

I have a nice big fancy Smok vv/vw battery. If I cut my juice in half with VG I can blow some massive clouds without knocking myself out. I found this to be mildly amusing for a short period of time. I also found out that with my regular mix when I dialed around for the "sweet spot" I ended up at 3.7 volts...

The mini tanks don't hold a day's worth of juice, and the 650mah batteries don't last all day. So what? Tank gets low, twist it off and pop another on. Battery light flashes, same thing. I've got a battered old EGO case from my first starter kit, it holds four tanks and batteries and a bottle of juice with room to spare.

I got my first mini pro tank from a vape shop. I just assumed it was a Kanger, but there was no mention of Kangertech anywhere on the packaging or tank. Whatever, I really liked it. I figured the real deal would be even better so I ordered one online. Kanger had discontinued the version 1, so I bought the "new, improved" version 2. It was good, but I liked the clone version 1 better. The clone tanks are polycarbonate rather than pyrex, but I don't vape plastic eating flavors, so that's a non-issue.

Now I'm not knocking all the cloud chasing, coil winding, wick trimming gear heads that seem to dominate these forums, but if there's anybody else out there who enjoys vaping with a nice, simple, inexpensive setup, I'd like to hear from you.