What Do They Put In Eliquid To Give The Flavours?

I know they put PG or VG juice in along with nicotine...

But what do they put in to give the cinnamon flavour or whatever flavour you have chosen?  


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The 'better Flavour' Reviews..

I read reviews all the time on atties and tanks where the reviewer starts going on about the intense/superb/awesome flavour.

This was brought home to me by a couple of experiences i had with my home-made ADV. I love it in a Kafun but find it unvapeable in an Orchid.
Njoy AC Hedons Bite - Overwhelming melon flavour in a Kayfun - Predominantly apple flavour in a Subtank mini.

One device may well bring out certain aspects of a flavour that are more appealing and yet make other flavours taste mediocre.
To me it is over simplistic to announce that a particular device is best for flavour. In fact i believe anyone who says that should be forced to never leave a review again. Ever.
I know that wattage plays a part but to me the airflow is the biggest factor in flavour and not coil / chamber size / wick / colour of device.......

Or am i wrong ?  

Will Flavours Be Banned In New York In July 2020?

I read e.g. this article:
To Fight Vaping, New York City Bans Nearly All Flavored E-Cigarettes
Now I am a little confused.
I am visiting NYC in July 2020 and now I don't know if I can bring my flavoured e-liquid for personal use (perhaps 50ml with 2mg nic). Will vaping flavours in the streets of NYC be banned in July 2020? Is there already a final decision on this topic? I just want to make sure in advance. I'd take a tabacco flavour or unflavored liquid instead of mango when there will be a flavour ban.
Is here someone who knows more about the flavor ban in NY, perhaps also in Washingtin D.C. and Boston, where plan to travel for a daytrip?  

Nautilus Wattage ?

Hi guys

Another day another question...... What's the maximum wattage the Nautilus will vape safely at ? Last night i decided to purchase a ZNA 50 mod after reading a thread on these forums. I recently got a Alantis + Sub Ohm battery Valentines week, i'm definitely getting more into vaping with the Alantis a month in. More flavour more of a enjoyable experience all together.

I bought 0 mg Nicotine Apple juice for the Nautilus by mistake so re ordered etc the right strength. While i was waiting i just vaped on the Alantis, yesterday went back to the Nautilus and the experience wasn't really enticing.

I was thinking going with two Alantis tanks hence the reason why i decided last night to go ahead with the purchase of the ZNA 50. Now i'm wondering if the ZNA 50 will improve the Nautilus regarding flavour ?

I like my flavour being a menthol smoker, if not i should be able to use it with the Alantis and buy another tank and have two.

I use the Nautilus on a Vamo 5 that can only go up to 15 Watts. What's the maximum in wattage the Nautilus can do ?  

Inhale And Exhale Method

I recently tried some dl vaping (restricted) and I noticed the flavour was much more detailed or pronounced....on both inhale and exhale...than mtl
Then I realised it was cause when I dl I tend to inhale deeply while when I mtl I usually dont.....I just mtl like a cigarette fast puffs or slow puffs but not deep inhales...once I changed that and inhale deeper the flavour was much better in my also...also I like to exhale trying only from mouth but of I can't and some goes through nose also and that helps with flavours....but I don't like exhale from nose only cause I feel like my nose is running ewwwwww I hate that feeling....
You guys? Do u like exhale from nose only sometimes??  

What Is It With Mesh?

I'm so tired of the recent "mesh only" craze. I just don't understand it at all.

I have used roundwire sub tanks for close to 4 years, and can generally get a pretty accurate flavour representation from my juices. Obviously some are better than others, but the og Uwell Crown coils and .4 Cleito coils are pretty stellar.

Recently decided to mix it up and try something new, so i went on the hunt for a new sub tank, only for the market to be completely littered with mesh-only tanks. The only tanks i could find that still use roundwire are from years ago.

I figured i had been missing something, so i picked up a collection of mesh sub tanks, only to be dissapointed by every one of them.

The list was:
Ehpro Raptor with both the raptor coils and the Horizontech Falcon coils.
Innokin isub B.
Aspire Odan Evo.
Aspire Cleito Pro.
Geekvape Zeus.

I got absolutely zero of the liquid nuance that i get from 3+ year old roundwire coils. I just get a blast of full-on "all the flavours at once", and for juices with sweetener, that is the primary profile. Interestingly, i found that with fruit flavours, it was a little more palatable, but since i primarily vape bakerys this wasnt all that much use.

I figured i would give the mesh rta's and rda's a shot, as everyone is raving about them, so i picked up:
Wotofo Profile RDA.
Wotofo Profile Unity RTA.
VandyVape Mesh RTA.

Tried all of them, same dissapointing experience. They were basically mesh sub tanks in RTA form. Literally exactly the same "flavour".

So, after wasting a chunk of money on all of these, im back to using the Cleito Pro with the 0.4ohm Cleito coils and the Uwell Crown Mini with the og Uwell Crown coils with the occasional use of the Wake Mod co RTA when i can be bothered to rebuild.

Is it just me? I dont understand the hype in any way. Maybe it's just my particular flavour profile doesn't work great with mesh, or maybe its just me, i dunno. It's just a shame to see that any recent sub tanks that come out are all mesh, apart from the very occasional sprinkling of roundwire thrown in here and there.

Anyone else have a similar experience? And have any recommendations on recent sub tanks to try that aren't just mesh?  

I Am Back On Vaping

Two weeks ago I was rewicking my rta because I wanted a change of flavour and was changing flavour every 2 days as I am using only one mod.Anyway,I am always frustrated when I wicked badly,meaning it leaked or the vape quality is not up to my usual standard.I had wicked this specific rta for hundreds over time the past 3 month as it is my first rta.I learned to wick properly after almost 30 trial...that day after I wicked,it leaked when I am about to go out to play sports with my friends.I thought my wicking had no problem before I leaves but I find that it leaked all over my bag,and I was in a very bad mood because of that...that prompted my gf to asked me to quit and I promised her that I will do it.The next day I passed all my mod to her and started to used nicotine gum,I don’t planned to quit nicotine as I find it really benefits my mental health and make me focus on work better.While using nicotine gum,I started to use lesser and lesser and then wanted completely off it as it was so boring even though I got my nicotine fix well.Yesterday I couldn’t take it anymore,somehow I convinced my gf to return my vape and promised her I will quit in the future if we got married or had babies.

In the meantime,I also ordered a new mod and now a sub ohm tank so that I don’t need to wick everytime I change flavour as I will be switching different coils on different flavour.I am excited, and hoped that this mod and tank will be able to keep me satisfied.I am addicted to vaping,not smoking and to me personally,vaping is harder to quit simply because I enjoy vaping a lot more then smoking.I love vaping,I am also worried if I had to quit someday...  

All About The Taste

I am a new member and everybody’s been helping me with various atomiser problems and I think I’ve been told to move it into here . It’s been recommended I use RTA,s and not sure what they are , and also it would be better for me to use bigger atomiser,s . When I started vaping I was looking for something that tasted and had the hit of a strong cigar ,and many companies advertised “ cigar flavours “ but were cr#p then I found TW heavy cigar 36mg and loved it. Then it became illegal so had to change to 18mg , big shock no taste ,so changed to 0.5 and more power and ok again .i found for whatever reason the heavy cigar flavour is very susceptible to the slightest change . But now I cannot get supplies from uk anymore because of uk post office rules regarding Covid so they say so been chasing around Thailand for something worth vaping . So if you recommend to me different tanks and atomisers it has to be A available in Thailand and B copes with plain tobacco flavour . I don’t like sweet and funny flavours . All I want is something that tastes like a cigar ( Dutch not Cuban ) . As an example heavy cigar with a 0.5 tastes great , with a 1.2 no taste at all . Thanks everybody I’ve had such good response from this forum and learnt a lot already .  

Does This Seem Right To You?

I was thinking of buying a really popular eliquid recently. I always keep my eliquids out of reach from my kids, but I just couldn't bring myself to buy this particular eliquid because of the packaging and the thought that it just looked too much like something kids would mistake for candy. Anyway this is the eliquid:



I hate all the media reports that say eliquid flavours are attracting kids when vendors never sell to under 18s, but I think packaging like this isn't helping either.  

How Strong You Inhale Vs Flavour

Hello everyone.

How strong you inhale vs Flavour... does it make a difference?

I don't think I saw a thread or anything regarding this specific subject.

There are lots of information about atomizers, airflow, building coils and wick, MTL and DTL but in my opinion this small detail makes a huge difference.

Technically speaking, the amount of air (volume) you inhale can be the same but spreaded over a different period of time. I am a hard inhaler meaning, that when I think about it, I usually tone it down and next inhales are slower, softer and a bit longer.

Speaking from my own experience with the gear I have here is my conclusion.
-Taking a less aggressive draw usually leads to more flavor and a bit less clouds.
-There is also flavor notes that can be different in both situations.

This can also explain a bit why people coming from MTL to DTL sometimes are overwhelmed by the flavour and people doing to opposite get weak flavor results... they are just pulling too hard.

Just changing the way I draw on same atomizer, same build, same liquid, same power, will give massive different results.

Vaping is a fine balance on so many little things and in the end, when finally I hit the sweet spot, it's all so satisfying.

Stay safe.  

Rta’s Coil Look Black,but Without Dry Hit

I change my coil infrequently,I notice sometimes when I rewick or change flavour on my rta,my coil looked black and gunk.After I rebuilt it and used it,the favour is ok and no dry hit, just a little less flavour.Recently,there is people contracting Vape related illnesses and a few died.I just don’t have too much time recoil and built,as usually rebuilding my rta which is relatively new released would take around 20min and I don’t have the time.Is dry hitting dangerous for the health because of Formaldehyde of dry hit or is the risk low?
What’s actually risky vaping nicotine,PG/VG only?